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Post by matejst on Dec 27, 2022 19:44:25 GMT
Well, if you look at the map... it's the northern part of the west. The only other part of continental Europe which could dispute the northwesternmost region crown, is Brittany. That's to the east, but also to the north, so a very similar location on the earth globe. Not surprisingly, Celts populated both areas (plus the west of the UK). At least once we were pushed by the Romans. Before that, we were the original Europeans, you know, like Erwan. The rest of you guys come from Africa or Asia or wherever. So much for the garden.  Sorry, Ozy, but Celts did not populate Brittany until the Roman times, and part of Celtic population migrated much later, somewhere in the VII century. When Caesar conquered Gaul, Brittany was the home of the Wends/Venetii (that's us, the Serbs), and the Western parts of Gaul by Aquitanians, Ligurians, Basks. I mean... the true Western world, already threatened by the Evil Empire.  
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Post by Ozymandias on Dec 27, 2022 20:47:12 GMT
Of course the Romans didn't just chase the Celts, but in western Europe those were the ones they encountered. Hell, they were in their face, even before the Punic Wars, they had to kick them out of Italy. In fact, while the Romans were engaged in the second one, Celts were still in the Po Valley; the first resistance to the empire, and the last one too, they never fully eradicated the Celtic culture from Scotland and Ireland, that was for another empire to deal with.
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Post by matejst on Dec 27, 2022 22:06:36 GMT
Since it's my professional specialty...
The Gauls were never chased from the Po valley -- they were assimilated, as important parts of their culture. In Gaul itself, what we call "Gauls" is a mixture of different peoples -- some of Celtic origin, some... we don't know much about them. In general, we know much less than we maintain and teach -- we "assume" way more than we really know. Most of the methods of historical linguistics were put under doubt by the sociolinguistic discoveries in the last fifty years, but the few linguists who still have the courage to analyze and reconstruct ancient languages are a cast of their own, deaf to everything new. Just like most historians, btw.
Lately, population genetics -- heavily influenced by ideology and a flawed theoretical model -- tried to prove that Europeans are all, let's say, "European", and that peoples never existed. It is complete BS, of course, but such "science" receives a lot of financial help.
There's no doubt that "Kelts" in Spain, Gaul and on the islands were related -- but how much? What was their relation with other European peoples? We are not sure. We know more about Gaulish today, but still no enough. Many French words, which we thought were of Latin origin, are probably Gaulish (the preposition à is a good example), and Gaulish was spoken in Turkey in the 6th century, and in France even in the 9th century. But -- were they homogeneous? Where did they come from? What's their relation with other peoples? We're, in reality, in the dark.
And then... There is that BS that they were "barbarians". Gaul was extremely rich, and that's the reason Caesar attacked it. And he almost lost his life and his legions in the trap prepared by the vercingetorix -- the supreme commander of the warriors -- and only the betrayal of the Edueni saved him under the walls of Alesia, the Sacred City of the Gauls.
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Post by Ozymandias on Dec 27, 2022 22:32:56 GMT
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Post by matejst on Dec 27, 2022 23:11:58 GMT
Speaking of Alesia... There is a big controversy in France about it. The French government made a big museum and invested millions in a place that does no look like Alesia. On the other hand, the government has forbbiden excavations at the place that fits perfectly Caesar's description, his path when he tried to run from Gaul after the defeat at Gergovia, What a mess... Finally, Caesar was not killed because he wanted to be king -- nobody cared as long as the interests of the Roman aristocracy were intact -- but because he sided with the people, buying and distributing land to veterans and impoverished peasants and, generally, protecting the plebs.
Like always, each and every time somebody sides with the people he is qualified as a "dictator" or a "tyrant". The rich write history. |
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Post by Ozymandias on Dec 28, 2022 6:04:49 GMT
Absolutely, and the rich almost always wins, which is why the saying goes a little bit differently. Currently, the rich have such incredible technological tools at their dissposal that they can not only rewrite history, but day to day events.
About the museum, my guess would be that expropriated lands were in the wrong hands, where the other location was.
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Post by matejst on Dec 31, 2022 12:33:22 GMT
Happy new year, dear Ozy! Best wishes for 2023!
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Post by Ozymandias on Dec 31, 2022 14:44:00 GMT
Happy new year, my Serbian brother.
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Post by Ozymandias on Mar 20, 2023 21:16:12 GMT
Ed's been kidnapped by aliens, they came in a Chinese balloon piloted by Maria Lvova-Belova.
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Post by Ozymandias on Mar 21, 2023 6:07:31 GMT
Police violence isn't exclusive to "Russia and China":
I'd like to see those brave policeman against some hundreds of armed Banderites.
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Post by matejst on Apr 2, 2023 19:42:42 GMT
Hello Ozy! Was writing some long due papers lately, so I avoided the internet. Now that it is finished, playing a bit on Lichess. My username is Matejst there.
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Post by Ozymandias on Apr 2, 2023 20:51:55 GMT
Me, I'm not even solving tactics anymore. I think there's some side effect from the bone treatment I'm undergoing, because this is the second time (first one was in September) that I've noticed a big performance hit after an injection. I simply don't see a fucking combination.
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Post by matejst on Apr 2, 2023 21:04:20 GMT
Me, I'm not even solving tactics anymore. I think there's some side effect from the bone treatment I'm undergoing, because this is the second time (first one was in September) that I've noticed a big performance hit after an injection. I simply don't see a fucking combination. What's happening Ozy? What bone treatment? |
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Post by Ozymandias on Apr 2, 2023 21:13:14 GMT
Osteoporosis, a consequence of years walking with crutches. I have to inject artificial antibodies every six months, not sure what they're supposed to do, but the list of secondary effects is long as... well, as the day is long.
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Post by matejst on Apr 2, 2023 23:19:52 GMT
Osteoporosis, a consequence of years walking with crutches. I have to inject artificial antibodies every six months, not sure what they're supposed to do, but the list of secondary effects is long as... well, as the day is long. I am so sorry to hear that. I have my health problems too, but they seem so minor now, and while they don't hamper one much, they at least bear the promise of a noble death. Can I ask why you had to use crutches? Consequences of an accident? |
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